Workshop Machinery-automotive repair shop equipment-Wheel balancers new and used
85Wheel balancers have had to change lately to accommodate the very large wheels now available for many cars.
The thing is though, unless you run an auto shop that specialises in balancing modern wheels or selling tires for them, it may be better to outsource the few large wheel balance jobs and keep your old machine at least until we see where this large wheel trend ends.
Most early wheel balancers will do up to 18" wheels in several different balancing modes, including stick on balance weights and inside weights used on some alloy wheels that require them.
Wheel balancers like all automotive equipment, work very hard and quality machinery is essential. Don't get caught with a cheap one. You will regret it daily!
There are many good makes and models of wheel balancers that are now reasonably priced because they will not balance wheels above 19 or 20 inches in size.
The ones I have reconditioned and tested are listed in order of my preferences, but all have their place.
Coats 700
Coats
Coats have been making wheel balancers forever! All of their early and late model automotive equipment has been first class apart from some easily broken touch pads at one time on their truck wheel balancers they have very few problems.
Most of their machines have big heavy motors and can take on a very heavy wheel/tire combination with ease.
The later ones used smart clutch start to be able to handle heavy work. Simple yet sophisticated these are amongst my favourite wheel balancers.
The very compact 700 series is a great little balancer that can handle big jobs.
The balancing speed is slow and this unit does not require a protection cover.
Beissbarth have made some wonderful equipment but in repairing their wheel balancers I have found some models to be better than others, as with other excellent products such as Hoffman who although making great automotive equipment and machinery, have made a few lemons as well over the years, so careful buying a used one unless you know the models and their shortcomings. If you have a good technician Hoffmans can be sorted and made near bulletproof by changing a few chips.
One way to judge a balancer is by who is using them, and both Hoffman and Beissbarth have a solid following from major car manufacturers which does give them heaps of credibility.
Wheel balancer cones and wheel mounting tools are expensive to buy and calibration usually cost over $80 call-out charged and $80 an hour or more for the technician.
The cheap Chinese balancers are as good as their tire changers with lousy cheap motherboards and even worse metallurgy.
You could not give me a Chinese wheel balancer after having worked on them!
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See below for free Beissbarth and other wheel balancer calibration procedures.
The famous Repco 472 wheel balancer
472 Repco wheel balancer.
Developed from the earlier 470 single phase the Repco 471 was even better. Reliable, accurate and well designed it sold like hot cross buns at Easter.
Only a few tools required to mount many different wheels, an easy set-up and legendary accuracy set these aside as a brilliant wheel balancer.
The early model did up to 14" wheels but was equally accurate, although some updates did occur with switch and other modifications it remained much the same until the 471 which took 16" wheels.
I have sold so many of these 471 and 472 balancers I lost count.
With all the balancers we rebuilt and sold these are a favourite to sell, because they are so reliable once mounted properly in place with 2 loxins holding two metal plates that fit over the base of the machine.
Wheel balancers need to be bolt mounted to the floor to perform properly.
I was fortunate enough to have the service manager of the factory that manufactured these and other machinery to offer advice and guidance on the ones I had for sale. He is a good friend, and a well known hubber his name on hubpages is agvulpes!
Free calibration settings for Focus, Coats, Balco, FMC, Beissbarth Giuliano
- Calibration Zone
This Company is in the UK and are well known for their top service.
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Hi earnestshub. You have quite a collection of Wheel Balancers up there and I appreciate your kind words. I'm proud to say that I was part of the early development of the Repco 470 range of Wheel Balancing machines. This machine was a fore-runner to all of the Electronic Wheel Balancers on the market today. Personally I think they have gone over the top with the development. There are so many variables when mounting a wheel on a vehicle and the balance is only a part of the equation. I still see the old Repco 471 range around today and in the right operators hands, still capable of giving a good wheel balance.
I certainly agree with you on the Chinese manufactured machines they have a long way to go before they will have a good product, the problem they will have is get enough quantity in their sales to warrant them being made.
I'm afraid I cannot agree with you on Beissbarth the experiences I had with them in the past leaves a lot to be desired and they need to improve their game to win back their reputation.
Very interesting Hub I'm looking forward to reading more of your Workshop machinery articles.
LOL well you are quite the slave driver aren't you :-)
Yes I do have some stories and yes I will write a hub about my experiences with the various Wheel Balancers.
I do appreciate your kind words but I'm not so sure that your should be in awe, maybe just respectful of your elders. lol
This is a great article on wheel balancers. We purchased a Hunter Road Force GSP9700 About 2 years ago. It truly is a top of the line wheel balancer. Very expensive but it paid for itself in the first year. It has roller arm that simulates road force and will measure tire and wheel run out, and will tell you the best possible fit and where to remount the tire on the wheel. If you get a free moment you should check it out. As with any premium service, customers will gladly pay a premium price
Hi, we have an old Balco machine where i work which struggles to balance wheels 17 inch or bigger. Sometimes 16 inch rims can be too much for it.
Everything works as it should. the auto-brake cuts in after the spin and weights required are added, another spin to recalculate and the result is more weights required again. You could do this all day till you you ran out of weights!
Admittedly the balancer is old, but its a Balco machine which has settings on the dial for up to 17 inch wheels (maybe 18??)
Is there any hope for it? A recalibration somehow? Or is it time for it to be moved on.
Hope you can help.
Thank you.
Tony
Hi, thanks very much for your time. The machine is a b930 handspin with wheel diameter show up to 17 then further sizes written in red up to 24 on the dial.
I agree the balancer is spot on when balancing wheels up to and including 15 inch wheels. Hopefully it can be fixed, and there we have no manual.
Thanks again for your time.
tony
Foofighterdave@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks for the info and your help. We will give that a try.
Balco b9.. series Weight chasing..
Calibrate it using 100grm LEAD WEIGHT on a popular 15" 16" OR 17" Steel wheel(it will then be most accurate on wheel YOU HAVE SELECTED)These balancers are very accurate and where other machines may tolerate any old weight and display Zero for these macHines you will need to invest in some 5Gram weights.When using hidden stick-on weights with modern deeply dished wide wheels select the mode that shows Stick-on weights on the outer rim edge but apply them inside.Apply less than indicated and add more to adjust to zero(usually in the same place ).Why? because when it was first designed the average wheel was rarely wider than 6" and the hidden weight mode was set to assume that the hidden central position would be only 4" from the rear edge of the rim, and that the well of the rim would effectively reduce the internal diameter by 2". WHICH IS WHY HIDDEN WEIGHT BALANCING Always USES SO MUCH MORE WEIGHT (On all Machines)
Hi. I have an FMC model 2500 wheel balancer. It was supposedly working a week ago or so. Right now what happens is that it turns on and acts as normal. However, once the wheel starts spinning, it never stops or provides a weight correction or anything. I tried the calibration mode as well and the same thing happens. It spins forever and never stops. Any idea what the problem may be? Also, do you happen to have a manual for this model? Thanks so much!
Thank you for the reply. I really appreciate it and would love whatever manuals you may have for it. My email is as follows. Chris-1 at Rogers.com. Also, you're thinking that it is a relay? Would you possibly have any further insight into this? I will tear it down and have a quick look as soon as I can. Again, thank you very much.
Chris
Just another update/question. I read another forum which is regarding the 4100 and someone said to do f50 and press spin. You then rotate manually and it should read from 000-255. Mine jumps back and forth from 000 to 001. It seems everytime the eye gets a sensor input it does this. Now my question, how is the unit told to stop spinning? Does it reach a certain number of revolutions or is it a time limit or what? I also tested both relays and they are just fine. Also, just a clarification to my initial post - it stops if I lift the hood or press stop. Just not on it's own. This is why I think that whatever initiates the slowdown/stop cycle is not cutting in. Thanks.
Great article .. .. I have used this machine to mount and balance 17 inch wheels + tires see
Does any one know where to get spare parts for or who can repair a Repco 471A Wheel Balancer in or around Brisbane Qld.
Thank you, The transformer & capaciter inside the top box have fried. Even a wiring diagram would help if any one has one.
That would be much appreciated. This balancer has been in our family since it was new, and as far as I can remember has never required calabration or repairs. Wouldn't be nice if all our workshop equipment was as reliable as these were.
My father just bought a repco 471a balancer but the needles that show how far out the wheel dont work any ideas?
Thank you.
We were able to get one niddle (that reads the out side of the rim) to work but the other niddle dosent read anything. Could that niddle be faulty?
That would be much appreciated. Thank you
Earnestshub, Any luck with agvulpes (spare parts) or a wiring diagram for the 471A.
Thank You.
Hi Earnestshub just woundering while you were looking for some information that may help my father and i, would you also know how to calibrate the repco 471A balancer for when we get it working
Earnestshub, Any luck
I am a looking to buy a balancer for my home shop. I can't justify a high end expensive machine. You say Chinese machines are no good, and I would guess that they are the bulk of the balancers in the lower price range. I have been searching the web and I haven't seen any ads which list the country of origin. How does a potential buyer identify which machines are Chinese made? I am uneasy buying a used balancer such as a Coats, for fear of buying a machine that may be inaccurate, or has a problem the seller didn't mention. Can you recommend a good low priced balancer? Something in the $1,000.00 price range.
Hi JohnK,
I also have the same conflict, If I don't or can't repair my existing antique Repco 471A, I can't justify the dollars (compaired with how many balances we do) for a new "Good" brand name machine so it's either new chinese or take the risk buying second hand.
Are you suggesting a "used" Coats 700 would be better than a new Chinese machine? A "used" Coats 700 here in Northeast America costs around $1,200-1,500 US dollars, depending on age and condition, which is more than I had planned to spend. Should I choose to spend the extra money, and buy a Coats, what should I look for to tell if it is working correctly before I buy it. Are there any other good machines you would recommend in case I can't find a used Coats 700 that would fit in my budget?
There is a Coats 700 for sale here for $1200, with the light truck cones, but that price might be negotiable.Are there any common problems with the Coats 700 that I should know about before looking at this one? Something you might want to check out before buying?
Maintaining the tire balance on your vehicle is critical to receiving satisfactory service from your tire investment. In addition to providing a smooth ride, balancing is a key component in tire wear.
I offered $800 he went to $1000 and won't budge. At $1000, he is at the price of a brand new Atlas balancer, so I'm back to square one, New or used.
The fellow selling the Coats 700 owns a auto repair shop, not a tire store and I have no way of telling how much he used it although he said he replaced it with a balancer that cost $14,000. This would tell me he does a lot of tires else he couldn't justify a $14,000 purchase. I was looking at the Ranger balancer also. Is Ranger a Chinese machine too?
I'll keep looking.
You don't happen to know about tire changers too, do you? I need one of them also.
Thanks for your advice.
HaHa How did I know you would say "Don't buy a Chinese tire changer."
I am looking and saving for the changer. Haven't found any good used ones yet. Mostly old rough looking machines, and no rim clamp changers at all.
I will be changing mostly OEM wheels and maybe a random aftermarket wheel. Probably nothing bigger than a 20 wheel, if even that big.
I thought I read that the older machines such as the Coats 4040 won't handle tires bigger than 15",, but I don't know if that's true. I also read that rim clamp is the only type to buy considering todays wheel trends.
I'm in no rush to find one now, because I am more concerned with my balancer purchase.
I did a search of 100 miles around me and there was only one coats 5060 changer for $1500. Everything else was either Chinese or big bucks. I didn't see any of the other brands you mentioned.
I used a coats 10-10 for a couple years and there is a 40-40 that looked pretty tempting but I don't want to buy yesterdays technology especially when the wheel industry is going to high tech.
I thought wheel balancers were pricey till I started looking at tire changers, boy what an eye opener.
I guess I'm going to have to save more money to up my budget.
Are Hofman tire changers American made?
There is a Monty 12.SE-18 for sale on Ebay but I cannot find out any info on it. Not even on the Hofman web site.
There is a fellow not far from me selling the one on Ebay but I couldn't find out anything about the model he is selling. The price is in my range $700 USD, so if you could shed any light on this model I would be grateful.
Thanks for the info, It look pretty good in the ad, but I will have to go and look at it and make sure it works OK.
Here is the ad:
Hi, I own a Coats 700 Wheel Balancer and I think I need to replace the motor due to a bad bearing (which appears to be pressed to the motor). Does anybody know where I can buy a motor 110V on line? Thanks,
John
I missed out on the Hoffman changer, so I'm still looking.
There seems to be an abundance of older Hoffman balancer and changers around, and above you mention that Hoffman made some lemon balancers. Could you tell me which models to avoid? Also are there some changers models to avoid too?
I did find a Coats 850 for sale. Is this a good model?
Sorry to ask you so many questions, but I think you are the only one on the internet who is willing to help folks like me, and I am very grateful for all your help.
How about Hunter balancers and changers?
hello Earnestshub, we recently purchased a used FMC 2500 wheel balancer and unfortunately, it did not come with a calibration weight. We can't seem to locate one as FMC is no longer in business. Any suggestions? Thank you!!!
Photo doesn't show the insides of any Balco wheel balancer I ever saw!
Hello, and I hope you can help me out. I just purchased a FMC 2500 wheel balancer and it was suppose to work fine. I brought it home and tried to calibrate it with the calibration weight and it gave me a CAL ER both times, which in the manual says that I might need a servics rep. Well I live in Saranac, MI. and there is no one around to help. Do you know of some steps that I can try to fix this or diagnois the problem. I am prety handy with electronics but don't know where to start. I do have it on a level concrete floor but it is not bolted down yet, if that makes a difference. Thank you very much for your time and reading my post. Steve
I have the manual and the calibration procedure, it just keeps failing and instead of CAL GOOD, I get CAL ER. Just needed to know if you know some simple things I can check or adjust since I have no one within 200 miles of me to work on this? Thanks for your help. Steve
I will give it a try and see if I can locate one. That is kind of what I thought I might have to do. If I can find one for the John Bean 4100 would it be relatively the same or do I have to find the 2500 FMC only. I will get it bolted down and level first to make sure that I'm not getting any movement causing problems. Thanks for the tip and your help so far.
Earnest, I bolted my FMC 2500 down to the floor and leveled it, Still gives me erroe message when I try to calibrate. Do you know how to test the sensors to see if they are bad. My machine came with a new one under the cover but I don't want to just switch it without testing the old ones. The circuit board looked descent with no burn marks or blown caps and diodes. From what I've read it sounds like a sensor (encoder) could be bad, but I don't know how to test with a meter, any help? Thanks, Steve
earnest thanks for the reply. I sent them an e-mail and maybe they will be able to help more, but thank you for pointing me in the right direction. Steve
that was a very informative article. Thanks for this
hi,i took out my old beissbarth w416 wheel balancer.it was a great machine but not up to date, so we packed it away. however after good several years while cleaning up we took it out and plugged it up.IT CAME ON,butnothing happens on the display when spinning the wheel,just 00.None of the arrow lights plus weight position light comes on.Power light is on plus lcd shows 00 but nothing else.Any ideas on what could be wrong?
Thanks Earnest for your help. I gave up on this machine and will through it out. Its not worth the effort. Here in south africa the new coats corghi and hunter machines are prohibitely expensive around 6000 AUD. I am getting a great deal on a new 'BRIGHT' and 'MASTER' machines for 850 AUD. I have a medium size workshop and was thinking maybe this might be the way to go. Any comments on these new machines?
thanks will try!
Would any one know where to get a lamp for a Repco 471.A balancer
Thanks for that but do you know what type of lamps and voltage of lamps and do you just series them up or parallel them cheers
Thanks that would be great
If you want to e-mail me that stuff my e-mail is
allistair@johnstoneelectrical.co.nz
Hi, i recently got a Beissbarth W447 tire balance machine for free. I do tho have major troubles finding out how to calibrate this machine? It does not have any displays so i can't relate to any of the methods of calibration of other models. It just have big turning knobs for the wheel size, width and distance from the machine. Any possibility anyone can help me out?
sir,please provide me service manual of tyre changer monty1100 of hofmann and wheel balancer geodyna 3001 of hofmann,my mail id balu_mes47@rediffmail.com
Hi, I am in Queensland, Australia & where I work has a Repco Computer Wheel Balancer model 471. The mechanic who works with me (an old Pom!) tried it out once & couldn't work out why the wheels weren't balancing properly & hasn't been used since. I was wondering if you could help me out please & also help me locate a manual for it please?
I HAVE A JMC 4100 THAT ALSO JUST KEEPS RUNNING WHEN YOU TRY TO CALIBRATE. DID YOU EVER FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS ON THAT OTHER MACHINE WHEN IT WASN'T THE RELAYS.
I ALSO TRIED THE F50 CODE AND IT CAME UP WITH A DASH MARK ON LEFT SIDE SCREEN AND A 259 ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHEN I ROTATED THE ARBER IT WOULD FLASH FROM 255 TO 259 ON RT SIDE AND DASH ON LFT SIDE WOULD JUST BLINK. MACHINE WAS GIVEN TO ME AND WAS JUST WANDERING IF ITS WORTH IT TO KEEP AND PURCHASE THE THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.
I ALSO TRIED THE F50 CODE AND IT CAME UP WITH A DASH MARK ON LEFT SIDE SCREEN AND A 259 ON THE OTHER SIDE. WHEN I ROTATED THE ARBER IT WOULD FLASH FROM 255 TO 259 ON RT SIDE AND DASH ON LFT SIDE WOULD JUST BLINK. MACHINE WAS GIVEN TO ME AND WAS JUST WANDERING IF ITS WORTH IT TO KEEP AND PURCHASE THE THINGS THAT ARE MISSING.
Do you or anyone here have any comments on a Norton tire balancer? I found one that works ( balances ) but the brake doesn't. Is this a machine worth trying to fix?
I have a repco 471 e. The eletrical contactor is not working think it got damp it is us. Any idea where i can get one.










Hello, hello, 21 months ago
Very well written and informativie. I keep telling my son he has to balance his wheels. I will pass it on.